Talk:Heroes

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Official Character Art from the Press Kit[edit source]

Here is the Press Kit, I think it would work better than those tiny 3D models that are on the pages already.

Official tips vs. useful ones[edit source]

What happens if normal usage of the character differs from official tips? For instance, Hanzo is better/used more at mid-range than long-range, I think. Should we have a separate section for player tips? Or maybe editor's notes if we disagree with a specific official tip? --Fuzzlepuzzle (talk)

  • As far as I'm aware, those official tips are severely outdated. Those short bits at the start might actually date as far back as BlizzCon 2014, in current official sources I couldn't find those tips anywhere. I'd suggest changing the headings from "Official Tips" to something like "General Tips" and edit those things freely. --Krupam (talk)--
    • Sounds good to me. :) Most (all?) characters have strategy sections anyway, maybe we could get rid of the tips section as it currently works entirely? --Fuzzlepuzzle (talk) 21:35, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
      • I think that would be fine, but I'd wait to see what others have to say about it. --Krupam (talk)--

Voice actors[edit source]

I've added voice actors with sources to Genji, McCree, Tracer, Hanzo, D.Va, Reinhardt, Winston, and Zenyatta's info boxes. IMDb and Behind the Voice Actors have voice actors for all the other characters, but that's the only source I can find. We know IMDb/BtVA's names are correct because they show up in the credits, but we don't know if they're linked to the right characters, because the credits don't say. Should we just go ahead and trust IMDb, or wait for each character's confirmation from devs/VAs, or what? --Fuzzlepuzzle (talk) 23:58, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

More ability information on hero pages?[edit source]

On the hero pages, there is currently little room for adding useful ability information. Abilities have their name and some official description listed, complemented by an "Ability Breakdown" table (that is mostly empty space because many abilities do not use the same statistics). Detailed ability information is instead located on pages for the specific abilities. Many of these pages seem to contain little more than a duplicate of the information in the first table: name and description. This makes it tiresome to read up on all the details of a heroes abilities.

Would it not be better to fit all ability information on the hero page? Basic but important statistics like damage numbers can be displayed in an overview, and more in-depth stats can be displayed under something like a spoiler tag. For example, something like how it is done on the League of Legends Wikia: http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Veigar Ecen Silver (talk) 03:05, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

That sounds good to me, if you know how to make a template for something like that and want to get started, please feel free. I've set up the Tabber extension, which should be usable in the near future, and we can maybe combine some other things to make the Heroes pages a lot more viable in the near future. If you have any other specific questions or need anything, let me know! --Z3ther (talk) 19:31, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
Alright, great! I've been looking into making a template but haven't come up with anything yet, show/hide functionality seems difficult without javascript or css. Will continue to tinker though. Not sure what most of our extensions can do yet! And Tabber seems very useful indeed. --Ecen (talk) 18:25, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

I've created Template:Ability_details that should be able to be used for containing ability information on the hero page. I've added a preview of some of Torbjörn's abilities using this template at Talk:Torbjörn. Note that there are some problems with the template that I haven't been able to fix yet. --Ecen (talk) 20:51, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

Original research and referring to it[edit source]

Wikipedia does not allow for original research. Here on the other hand, I assume that we do allow for original research (I cannot see how we could get any detailed ability information otherwise). However, I feel that we need to be able to mark data as original research if it is. Ideally I think there should be some info on who has done the research, when it was done and how. Now, I have not been able to come up with a way to easily include all that as a reference so for the time being I will probably just add something like <ref>Last confirmed as of yyyy-mm-dd.</ref> to data I add or confirm myself. Thoughts on this? Ecen (talk) 18:59, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

Blocking hero pages[edit source]

Guys, I think we should start to consider blocking certain pages from being edited by anons. Especially the most vulnerable ones, like Hero pages. Vandalism hasn't gone extreme yet, but I'd rather cut it off before it gets out of hand, and I feel like we've already reached the point where we get a few shitposters a day, and I don't want to see them being in a broken state more often than fixed.
If anons want to say anything that isn't a pile of nonsense, they have the Talk pages for it. --Krupam (talk)--

This sounds reasonable in my mind. Surely those who actually contribute won't mind having to log in. --Ecen (talk) 18:35, 1 June 2016 (UTC)