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== Quote Ordering, Organization & Datamining == In the Quotes page of each hero, how should the quotes be ordered/ organized. A full order list would be appreciated. Also is someone here capable of datamining quotes? If yes then can you please add in the missing audio of quotes as well as add new quotes? [[User:PigeonGuru|PigeonGuru]] ([[User talk:PigeonGuru|talk]]) 11:55, 24 September 2016 (UTC) :There is a new format for the quotes pages being tested on [https://overwatch.gamepedia.com/User:TheModster?profile=no my user page] that you can check out. As for the audio files, [[User:Gabrielwoj|Gabrielwoj]] and I have extracted them and we are gradually adding them to the wiki. I've been busy with real life stuff, so I haven't made as much progress in that regard. - [[User:TheModster|TheModster]] ([[User talk:TheModster|talk]]) 19:06, 24 September 2016 (UTC) ::However, I don't know which ones are used or not, each hero has many voice lines and I don't think all of them are used, and some of the pages are missing few things like pressing Z to tell about your Ult Charge when targeting someone (which emits a different voice). I'll try add some of the missing Quotes ones for Ana, which seems to be the most complete right now, but I'm most adding the voices randomly, but I'll try to add the most I can. Bastion quotes page is going to be a pure hassle, though. [[User:Gabrielwoj|Gabrielwoj]] ([[User talk:Gabrielwoj|talk]]) 21:50, 24 September 2016 (UTC) :::I have the same problem. It's difficult because they don't really remove the unused quotes from the game files, so they're all mixed in with the current quotes. I have to rely on gameplay videos and second-hand information from people who have heard them in-game. - [[User:TheModster|TheModster]] ([[User talk:TheModster|talk]]) 22:09, 24 September 2016 (UTC) ::::Usually games have some sort of manifest to show which resource files are being actively used and how they're used. Perhaps one exists in the game files somewhere? -[[User:LastTalon|LastTalon]] ([[User talk:LastTalon|talk]]) β’ ([[Special:Contributions/LastTalon|contribs]]) 22:17, 24 September 2016 (UTC) :::::Maybe. Overwatch's game files are completely "encrypted" and it's somewhat difficult to rip the files. I use a tool called OverTool (along few other tools to extract the .wem file, sound file for OW), with that tool, the sound files are "categorized" per character, but not per action, and every file are composed by numbers or letters, making it difficult to know what is what, requiring to hear each one separately before uploading. Also, I don't know if anyone could do this, but having the "File:something.ogg" would help a lot the work, instead of just "Audio", so we don't need to still edit the Quote pages to add those audio files to the table, we can also just upload directly and the audio will be there as soon the page is cached. My only concern is that audio files with lengthy file names was giving out some errors and I could not upload them, like this one, which I had to add suspension points: [[:File:D.Va - A giant gorilla Just like in those old....ogg]]. I may get more into the work after this weekend, but we'll see. [[User:Gabrielwoj|Gabrielwoj]] ([[User talk:Gabrielwoj|talk]]) 23:06, 24 September 2016 (UTC) ::::::Thanks for the reply. I'll test your suggestion and see how it goes. [[User:PigeonGuru|PigeonGuru]] ([[User talk:PigeonGuru|talk]]) 02:41, 25 September 2016 (UTC) ::::::I attempted to format the Genji Quotes page but I encountered problems: :::::: *I don't know how to split a table (in fact is this even possible?) so I have to copy & paste the contents separately, which is troublesome. :::::: *By doing so the resultant tables are not of the same width. ::::::Anyone know a better way to doing this? [[User:PigeonGuru|PigeonGuru]] ([[User talk:PigeonGuru|talk]]) 03:01, 25 September 2016 (UTC) :::::::Are you using the visual editor or the source editor? I don't think you can split tables or make them the same widths in the visual editor, but it's possible with source. - [[User:TheModster|TheModster]] ([[User talk:TheModster|talk]]) 04:34, 25 September 2016 (UTC) ::::::::Visual editor, I find it easier as I'm not that skilled with source codes. [[User:PigeonGuru|PigeonGuru]] ([[User talk:PigeonGuru|talk]]) 05:57, 25 September 2016 (UTC) :::::::::Editing tables to that degree pretty much requires the source editor, unfortunately. If you want, I can make a new test page with Genji's quotes. - [[User:TheModster|TheModster]] ([[User talk:TheModster|talk]]) 06:11, 25 September 2016 (UTC) ::::::::::That can help quite some. I would like to know how to use the source editor more. [[User:PigeonGuru|PigeonGuru]] ([[User talk:PigeonGuru|talk]]) 06:46, 25 September 2016 (UTC) :::::::::::Okay, so I made a new page at [[User:TheModster/Quote test]] with Genji's quotes. You can open this new page and Genji's original page in source and see how the code compares (especially in the header of the tables, notice the width settings in mine). Mess with it and see what happens. Learning how to identify differences in the code, and how the page's appearance is affected by them, is a great skill to develop when it comes to editing source. Another tip: Start saving pages and bits of code in text files on your computer. I make a lot of my big edits in notepad++, and copy and paste it into the editor to preview it. That way, if the power goes out you won't lose work (as long as you save it regularly, that is). And it's good to keep sample code to refer to and experiment with. - [[User:TheModster|TheModster]] ([[User talk:TheModster|talk]]) 18:05, 25 September 2016 (UTC) :::::::::::Tested the editing method for the McCree page on my userpage, works out well enough. [[User:PigeonGuru|PigeonGuru]] ([[User talk:PigeonGuru|talk]]) 10:24, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
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